The opinions, beliefs, and arguments of this opinion piece do not align with the viewpoints or priorities of The Wesleyan Argus as a student-led institution. Not only are the arguments in this piece generalized and oversimplified, but they fail to contextualize the Black Lives Matter movement and the systemic, historical background behind police violence against communities of color in the U.S. The Wesleyan Argus believes that writing articles pertaining to Black Lives Matter and institutional racism in the United States requires a much more comprehensive, reflective lens.

 

A 20-year-old man walks into a church and massacres nine people, claiming that he was afraid that America was being taken over by Black Americans, citing American race relations as evidence. About a month later, a man wears a GoPro, tapes himself walking up to a local reporter and a cameraman, and shoots them both on camera, proclaiming racial injustice in this country as his motive.

Police officers are looking over their shoulders as several cops have been targeted and gunned down. The week before classes started, seven officers were killed in the line of duty; a few were execution-style targeted killings.

An officer I talked to put it succinctly: “If they want to come after me, fine. Just come at me head on. Don’t shoot me in the back of my head. I’d rather go down with a fighting chance.”

Is this an atmosphere created by the police officers and racist elements in society itself? Many, including individuals in the Black Lives Matter movement, believe so.

Or is it because of Black Lives Matter? Many believe that as well, including a police chief who made his remarks after one of his officers was shot and killed—he claimed that Black Lives Matter was responsible for the officer’s death. Some want Black Lives Matter labeled as a hate group.

I talked to a Black Lives Matter supporter, Michael Smith ’18, who recoiled when I told him I was wondering if the movement was legitimate. This is not questioning their claims of racism among the police, or in society itself. Rather, is the movement itself actually achieving anything positive? Does it have the potential for positive change?

There is evidence to support both views. Police forces around the country are making more of an effort to be more transparent, have undergone investigations to root out racist officers and policies, and have forced the conversation to the front pages after being buried on the back pages for far too long.

On the other hand, following the Baltimore riots, the city saw a big spike in murders. Good officers, like the one I talked to, go to work every day even more worried that they won’t come home. The officer’s comments reminded me of what soldiers used to say after being hit with IEDs in Iraq. Police forces with a wartime-like mentality are never a good thing.

Smith countered with, “You can’t judge an entire movement off the actions of a few extremists.”

I responded with, “Isn’t that what the movement is doing with the police? Judging an entire profession off the actions of a few members?”

Hence, my concerns that the movement is not legitimate, or at the very least, hypocritical.

It is apparent that the man who shot the reporter and her cameraman isn’t a representation of Black Lives Matter. The question is whether or not the movement is setting the conditions of the more extreme or mentally disturbed individuals to commit atrocities.

Smith explained further. “Yes, but the police have an established system of reporting the bad officers. BLM is decentralized, they aren’t as organized. You can’t hold the more moderate elements responsible for what a crazy person does in their name.”

Perhaps. But that doesn’t explain Black Lives Matter rallies from cheering after an officer is killed, chanting that they want more pigs to fry like bacon. That wasn’t one or two people. The movement also doesn’t want to be associated with looters and rioters, calling them opportunistic. But it is plausible that Black Lives Matter has created the conditions for these individuals to exploit for their own personal gain.

I warned in an article last semester that a movement that does not combat its own extremists will quickly run into trouble. The reasons why are now self-evident. If Black Lives Matter is going to be the one responsible for generating these conversations, then a significant portion of that conversation needs to be about peace. They need to stand with police units that lose a member, decrying it with as much passion as they do when a police officer kills an unarmed civilian.

Smith does have a point, though. An organization cannot be labeled based of a small percentage of their membership. There is a reason why so many have shown up to protests across the country: there is clearly something wrong, and wrong enough to motivate them to exit their homes and express their frustration publicly. That is no small effort. The system is clearly failing many, and unfortunately they feel like they will only be listened to if their protests reach the front pages of the news. And so far, they are correct.

But this principle needs to be applied universally. I know many of us here at Wesleyan realize that most police officers are good people simply doing a service for their community, and that there are only a few bad apples. But those chanting to fry the pigs seem to have missed this message.

It boils down to this for me: If vilification and denigration of the police force continues to be a significant portion of Black Lives Matter’s message, then I will not support the movement, I cannot support the movement. And many Americans feel the same. I should repeat, I do support many of the efforts by the more moderate activists.

It is advice that I need to take myself. After the Supreme Court ruling that legalized gay marriage nation-wide, a few liberals gloated in a conservative political forum that I like to read. They were surprised by the reaction: every conservative who responded was happy with the ruling.

I realize that moderate conservatives need to speak up more as well. If we had, gay marriage might have been legalized years ago. Instead, I got the feeling that a lot of moderate conservatives were afraid of speaking up about the issue and being labeled as a RINO (Republican In Name Only).

I also understand the frustration of moderate Black Lives Matter members, like the one I talked to, about being stereotyped based off of a few radical and vocal members.

Kim Davis, the misguided clerk who is refusing to hand out marriage licenses, is a perfect example of this. As a conservative, it is infuriating to see one clerk in one city out of the thousands in conservative states making headlines, when the rest are handing out licenses with no issue. One clerk is making headlines and is being held up as evidence that conservatives hate homosexuality. Kim Davis generated a couple hundred supporters, a very small showing.

Yet I am not innocent when it comes to Kim Davis. I could have gone down to the courthouse and joined the counter protest, holding up a sign that says “conservatives for gay marriage rights,” and made a statement that Kim Davis is not representative of the mainstream conservative views. I don’t blame those who can’t support conservatives for not being more vocally pro-gay rights, though many liberal politicians were also silent on the issue during the 1990s and 2000s.

Returning to Black Lives Matter, the country is nervously waiting to see what happens next. The next unarmed civilian to be killed, the next officer to be killed, the next radical racist to take their views to the next level.

At some point Black Lives Matter is going to be confronted with an uncomfortable question, if they haven’t already begun asking it: Is this all worth it? Is it worth another riot that destroys a downtown district? Another death, another massacre? At what point will Black Lives Matter go back to the drawing table and rethink how they are approaching the problem?

Bryan Stascavage is a member of the Class of 2018.

  • Canasian217

    I do realize that there are Black Lives Matter activists who in the group for the right reasons and the police have some, just some, that are racist. I disagree that African Americans are discriminated against nationally as some believe. It’s true that for every 1 white arrests they’re 3 black arrests, but they forget to add the fact they also committed a crime and many people don’t realize that. To Black Lives Matter group in particular I believe the leaders know what they are causing to racial tensions. In a tweet the co leader of the movement said the group was inspired by a convicted cop killer. There are racist officers but people don’t deserve the right to destroy cities and countless lives.

  • tennstrike

    This seems an incredibly balanced, thoughtful and well-written article. Where is the controversy? It is an opinion article but not particularly slanted. I will read more and see what the negative reaction is all about.

  • neckfat

    This is the article that got a front page Apology?? The world is going to be a little bumpy for you babies…

  • Charlene Burbett

    How is this openly racist? It’s a very well thought, well written article. I can’t believe BLM made demands and am shocked they’re being met. People need to stop being scared to speak their minds. Of course everyone isn’t going to agree on everything and I wouldn’t want it that way. So being so butt hurt over anything related to race, please, for the love of God.

  • Amy Robertson

    Wonderful article!!!!!! Perhaps you can educate some of you fellow college students to stop being followers and actually form their own opinion. God bless you Bryan for having the courage to say what desperately needs to be said!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Source https://www.odmp.org/

    Ok, let me try to look at this article objectively. I will start with one of the first claims of the writer “Police officers are looking over their shoulders as several cops have been targeted and gunned down. The week before classes started, seven officers were killed in the line of duty; a few were execution-style targeted killings.”

    The article is trying to, passively, put blame on the BLM movement for the supposed targeting and killing of cops.

    The “several cops have been targeted and gunned down.” doesn’t have a specific time range, so let’s assume since the BLM movement started. The other part specifies a week, specifically August 20th through the 27th 2015.

    Here is the names and cause of deaths of each officer during that specified seven days:

    1- Detention Officer Tronoski Jones, End of Watch: Thursday, August 20, 2015, suffered a fatal heart attack while attempting to deal with a combative inmate at the Baker Street Jail shortly after 4:00 am.

    2- Senior Trooper Steven Vincent, End of Watch: Monday, August 24, 2015, shot and killed while checking on a vehicle that was being operated by a suspected intoxicated driver near the intersection of Highway 14 and Fruge Road, near Bell City.

    3- SergeantvPeggy Vassallo, End of Watch: Monday, August 24, 2015, struck and killed by a vehicle while rendering aid to another driver after being involved in an accident shortly before 8:00 am.

    4- Police Officer Henry Nelson, End of Watch: Wednesday, August 26, 2015, shot and killed at approximately 3:00 pm while responding to a domestic disturbance call where three women had been stabbed by a male subject at a home on Anna Street in Sunset.

    5- Trooper James Matthew Bava, End of Watch: Friday, August 28, 2015, killed in a single vehicle crash at the intersection of Highway FF and County Road 977, in Audrain County, shortly before 8:30 am.

    6- Trooper Chad H. Wolf, End of Watch: Friday, August 28, 2015, killed when his motorcycle was struck by a vehicle.

    7- Deputy Sheriff Darren H. Goforth, End of Watch: Friday, August 28, 2015, shot and killed from ambush while pumping gas into his patrol car at a commercial gas station at the intersection of West and Telge Roads, in Cypress.

    The writer says “a few were execution-style targeted killings.” Assuming he meant a few during the seven day period, since it is in the same sentence, rather than since the beginning of the BLM movement, we can say the following: Killing number 7 was execution style, and maybe number 2.

    Was BLM to blame for any of these seven killings? Number 7 could be attributed to BLM. Could number 2 also be attributed to BLM? Was Kevin Daigle a BLM sympathizer? Can any other killing be attributed to BLM during this seven day period?

    How many exactly is a few?

    Now, let’s look at when the BLM movement started. Let’s say it started in July 2013, after George Zimmerman was acquitted, according to Wikipedia…

    Here is the officers killed in the line of duty list per month

    2013 July: 7

    2013 August: 9

    2013 September: 12

    2013 October: 8

    2013 November: 7

    2013 December: 14

    2014 January: 15

    2014 February: 4

    2014 March: 16

    2014 April: 11

    2014 May: 18

    2014 June: 6

    2014 July: 7

    2014 August: 7

    2014 September: 12

    2014 October: 13

    2014 November: 12

    2014 December: 12

    2015 January: 14

    2015 February: 2

    2015 March: 16

    2015 April: 6

    2015 May: 17

    2015 June: 9

    2015 July: 5

    2015 August: 14

    2015 September: 12

    I suggest you graph the data and see the trend for yourself.

    Another available statistic is to look at officers killed by gunfire:

    2013: 31

    2014: 47

    2015 (so far): 27

    Next would be to look at each year’s gunfire deaths, and see which one could be attributed to BLM…

    To be continued, if anybody reads this…

  • Lance Manion

    I read on FOX that this article contained inaccuracies and had caused some students to feel unsafe due to it’s heavy racial overtones. While I did not agree with some of the writer’s views I found a mostly thoughtful piece that asked a lot of necessary questions and pointed out some inconvenient truths.

    To the 172 students out of 2000+ that signed some petition I have only this to say: Lighten up Francis.

  • Antoine Turnbolt

    Well said. Know that the vast majority of Americans agree with you, they’re just not willing to endure the backlash you’re receiving to speak up themselves.

  • CC

    Well written article, Bryan. Thank you for having the guts to express your opinion. I think anyone who has read your article would agree that you are NOT a racist but rather are trying to question the tactics of the BLM movement who are in my opinion only promote division and destruction in our country. All live should matter not skin color.

    • The Big City of Dreams

      “All live should matter not skin color.”

      Our society has made it so skin color does matter. BLM didn’t create the rules.

  • Jeff

    Bryan, nice work, but you miss some keys points. First off, everyone is against police brutality due to race. Second, BLM is not a group anyone should support as they push hate. Additional evidence-

    I researched this group and they are linked to Assata Shakur, famous for a 1970s murder of an officer. She escaped prison and is in exile in Cuba. Simple googling confirms she is glorified by BLM leaders and followers. It is confirmed by their words, pamphlets, videos and shirts. One of the their slogans is “Assata taught me”. It is very disappointing to see young people wherein go shirts with that language at BLM events. Note that Assata supports are not about making her free or claiming she is not guilty. She is praised for what she did.

    I simple Wikipedia search about the group confirms they started based on events in the Martin and Ferguson cases. As an examiner of both cases, neither had anything to do with race. Martin was killed when a multi raced Zimmerman shot him while being assaulted. Anyone can watch the trial and research the tragic event. While everyone knows of the non guilty verdict, few seem to know that race was never mentioned. Race played no role. People seem to know more about Ferguson. A grand jury and the DOJ confirmed it was a tragic but justifiable killing. But again, race played zero role. So BLM is started based on these two cases that had nothing to do with race. But what did they have in common – publicity, media attention. The genesis of a hate group, in my opinion.

    Third point-BLM own language confirms they do not care about the main causes of death for blacks (black on black murder) or other non accidental of blacks. Do they really care.

    I did the research and the evidence clearly showed overwelming evidence of hate. The chants (multiple), posters, shirts, Assata (who communicates with group), +++

    Jeff

    • The Big City of Dreams

      “Third point-BLM own language confirms they do not care about the main causes of death for blacks (black on black murder) or other non accidental of blacks.”

      What makes you think they don’t care? They are many groups under the BLM banner that address different issues.

      “Do they really care.”

      Do you yourself really care?

  • Anonymous

    Black Lives Matter is a movement which lives under the guise of racism. It isn’t reverse racism as some claim, it is the definition of racism. They need to rename their group “ONLY Black Lives Matter”. That would apply to every protest and argument they make.

  • Adjestil01

    Black lives matter activists have some good points and some ridiculous points that are not based on any empirical evidence. What is even more absurd is the obvious political support by the Black community for the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party promises more freebies, more government, bigger government, and delivers on these promises. With a bigger government resembling a Leviathan there comes the nasty residue that always accompanies governments, and that is force. The more government/bureaucracy that exists, the less freedom and liberty you will have. It is rather a simple formula. You get what you vote for.

  • Anonymous

    My question to BLM is why do they only matter if and when a black person committing a crime or an innocent black person is killed justifiably or unjustifiably by a white police officer? Chicago has become a war zone, with more black people being killed than soldiers in Afghanistan, but their lives don’t seem to matter and BLM, Sharpton, Farrakhan and Jackson say nothing about it……WHY? because they’re black criminals killing other black criminals and innocents who are caught in the middle. This FACT isn’t PC, so they ignore it. The hypocrisy on this reality stinks to high heaven.

    • Anonymous

      the BLM movement is mostly about black people, often unarmed, being killed at a much higher rate by police officers in as much as the pro-life movement is not about victims of drunk drivers or kids dying from preventable diseases, or soldiers dying in wars….

      • Buck

        Not at all a good analogy since the number of unarmed black people who are killed by police officers (63) is dwarfed by the number of black people killed by other black people (2,943), while the number of abortions (730,322) is much larger than the victims of drunk drivers (140), or soldiers dying in wars (40). Kids dying from preventable diseases depends a whole lot on what you call a kid and what you mean by preventable. If we’re just talking immunizations, that’s around 45. If you want to include complications from the flu then that may be as many as 5,000. So, if I’m truly worried about Black Lives, I’m going to focus on heart disease. Then violence. Somewhere above safer toasters and lightning protection is being killed by a police officer.

      • Buck

        And just in case you want to question my numbers, check out the guardian, MADD, Wikipedia, and the CDC. The internet has amazing facts from reliable sources.

    • The Big City of Dreams

      “but their lives don’t seem to matter and BLM, Sharpton, Farrakhan and Jackson say nothing about it.”

      Sharpton and Jackson have had rallies, marches, and meetings regarding violence in Chicago. Farrakhan has spoken about curbing the violence in Chicago. What made you think they haven’t spoken about it?

  • Bob
  • 1Connman

    How black are we, how white are we, I am blacker then you, My life counts more than yours? Congratulations, you all passed the Adolf Hitler HATE TEST!!!!!

  • Darhar M.

    A well written article that hits the nail on the head which is probably why some oppose
    it as it went over their heads.

  • ur12c

    Good article with inaccurate information.

    1. The US Supreme Court’s decision on whether or not gays should be married has nothing to do with the Constitution. Therefore, we should all be appalled and embarrassed that the Justices made this type of decision at their highest level. They have degraded the purpose of their existence. Shame on them.

    2. In regards to Kim Davis, the media all around has failed to, once again, tell the truth that Davis is a DEMOCRAT. The “media” is to spewing false information, like Stascavage, around that she a conservative, SHE IS NOT. She is a devote believer of Christ and it is against her religious belief, despite her political interests, for her signature not to be on the marriage licenses between two same sex couples. It’s very simple. She was elected before the Illegal US Supreme Court decision forcing her to sign the marriage certificate. Accommodations should be made for her, not against her.

    3. “Any group promoting and spewing hatred and death” among those who protect us or others in this country, should “ALL” be labeled as terrorists group. BLM should be labled as such a group. They should have have their immigration status revoked and returned to their country. If they are US citizens, they should not be entitled to enjoy any benefits of this country, and treated and criminally charged as a Felon.

    I’m sick and tired of all the weak minded people in this country who have lost their moral compass. It started way before my time, but I see the degradation of this country unless we all act to can reverse the tide.

    • The Big City of Dreams

      “but I see the degradation of this country unless we all act to can reverse the tide.”

      Sounds like you want to go back to a time when ppl were put in their place and didn’t rock the boat.

      • ur12c

        You obviously don’t understand the concept of America, it was started because people did rock the boat. Unfortunately, we don’t have that same fight in keeping it on the righteous track.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        “You obviously don’t understand the concept of America,”

        I understand it quite well.

        ” it was started because people did rock the boat.”

        Does rocking the boat include enslaving and killing the Native Americans. Was that apart of the righteous track.

      • ur12c

        Damn right it does, its called a war. The Natives were well trained warriors and very killed fighters, but they lost the war. They weren’t part of the US, but they were in America – so they wouldn’t have identified themselves as Native Americans, they would have identified themselves as their tribe. We just didn’t kill them, we fought them in a war. This country wasn’t given to us, it was earned in hard fought battles. So some lost, get over it, it’s history. I want to make history now by continuing the good fight and rid those who wrong in his world, and those who identify themselves as wanting to hurt those who want to maintain this great country.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        “Damn right it does, its called a war.”

        Coming in and enslaving a group of ppl is called war?

        ” We just didn’t kill them,”

        Lol that’s entirely true. Do make it seem like every atrocity inflicted upon them was due to a war or battle.

        “This country wasn’t given to us,”

        Of course not we went and took it. Took it violently I might add.

        “So some lost, get over it, it’s history”

        Tell that to the ppl and tribes still alive today were saw their history destroyed. If the roles were reversed and we ended up like Native Americans how quickly would you be able to forget it?

      • ur12c

        With their so-called retribution in the likes of their casinos and land given to them, when are they or anyone else going to stop acting like victims with their continually claim of “Oh’ woe me” with their hand out.

        So far its interesting how far you have detached from the actual topic of the article. It appears you are in a continuum battle as a societal victim, I wish you well in your future and ability to try and remain focus. Peace.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        “With their so-called retribution in the likes of their casinos and land given to them”

        You think giving them casinos and stationing them on reservations is retribution. I maybe wrong but didn’t they control the entire nation at one point. There were families destroyed forever. There were hundreds if not thousands of people enslaved and their consolation prize is casinos and reservations. Reservations can be hit or miss depending on certain factors. The same can be said about casinos.

        “when are they or anyone else going to stop acting like victims with their continually claim of “Oh’ woe me” with their hand out.”

        It’a not about being a victim it’s about highlighting tragedies that occurred. In America we tend to play favorites. “Never forget this tragedy but we’ll give this tragedy limited attention.

        “So far its interesting how far you have detached from the actual topic of the article.”

        No I’m pretty much in line with the article. Certain responses are going to take the conversation in different areas.

        “I wish you well in your future and ability to try and remain focus. Peace.”

        Was I wrong with even some of the things I said?

  • Anonymous

    “Black Lives Matter …..” My question is “To whom?” Certainly not citizens of Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Ferguson, Dallas, Houston …………

    • 1Connman

      Thug lives don’t matter! Stop supporting the worst of our country.

    • The Big City of Dreams

      My question is “To whom?” Certainly not citizens of Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Ferguson, Dallas, Houston”

      What are you basing this on?

  • Phil Lesh Fan

    There is nothing in this article which a reasonable mind would find offensive.

  • enoughnow

    I read the original editorial in its entirety and found it to be accurate and well-thought-out. While it may be inflammatory, I saw no evidence of “…inaccurate and twisted facts”. If they escaped me, please point out what I have missed. This young man should sew the editors for defamation!

  • enoughnow

    @halbhalbhalb:disqus
    Your posts are telling……still in school?

  • David Puddy

    GREAT article Bryan…. always remember to stand firm on the truth and don’t back down to the intolerant wackos on the far left who spew their PC garbage. Stand up to the race hustlers and haters and in the end they will always fade away…

  • Bruno Giavonni

    black lies matter is the new terrorism in this country.

  • Tom Wichita

    Well Written.

    Shame that the liberals and progressives on campus are pushing for censorship and book burning.

  • Ken

    Black lives matter is the biggest joke in the world. They kill each other all day and have serious issues they need to fix in their own communities so you can’t come out and have a movement that gives excuses instead of fixing your issues. Most blacks unfortunately are a burden to society and most are a pain in the butt in the workplace and to deal with and you all know that’s a hard fact. Get it together BLM but I think it’s too late…… BLM is a fraud and a pathetic joke

    • Tom Wichita

      This is a college paper forum you are using. You are not allowed to express those types of ideas here.

    • The Big City of Dreams

      ” They kill each other all day and have serious issues they need to fix in their own communities”

      What makes you think that isn’t being addressed.

      “so you can’t come out and have a movement that gives excuses”

      Is that what the movement is doing?

  • Well said. Don’t let the book burning nazis deter you.

  • Mick McCall

    Outstanding op/ed. I disagree with some of mr Stascavage’s views, but his point is well thought out and cogently presented.

  • Marshal

    The editors who apologized for this should resign in disgrace. What cowards to beg forgiveness for such ridiculous political claptrap. What “fact” needs to be checked?

    If BLM and supporters can’t handle their obvious problems being discussed they should be roundly mocked not appeased.

  • CEP

    Great, mind-provoking op-ed article. Perfect for a college newspaper.

    First off, these Wesleyan Students have embodied everything, terribly wrong about Young America. Kids, sheltered in whatever little bubble they come from and choose to remain in, pushing their views on others with a dictators force. This student and soldier put time, effort, and real thought into an op-ed article and for that reason alone it should make the paper.

    Having multiple friends who have gone to Wesleyan, I have been there +/- a dozen weekends or so. The school is obviously quite a unique place and gives kids freedom, unlike really any place in the World. They can party about as freely as they’d like, there are no social norms, and they lack of respect for public safety or (P-Safe) as they call them is downright outlandish. I’ve seen them throw bottles at public safety, bait them, and degrade them in every verbal way possible.

    Many of these kids are convinced or seemingly addicted with the thoughts that they understand the social outline of the World and frankly hate anyone/everyone else. All while trying to save the World, (a vast majority of them) have their parents paying a quarter of a million dollars for their college, while I’m sure that money could be better much spent elsewhere, but that’s just my opinion.

    Wesleyan, you’ve been a great academic institution for almost 200 years in Connecticut and I believe you are the only football program with a winning record against Michigan, as well.

    However, you’ve become a breeding ground for disdain, naivety, and frankly social unawareness for quite sometime.

    This has been evident to many of your alumni, but now is clear to the World.

    • CEP

      Bit hard to proof read while at work.

  • David

    The word “racist” has for a long time been the single most effective fear-word in the leftist and neoconservative arsenal. For decades, they have successfully used it in the political arena to slander traditionalists, shut down debate, and leave opponents running for cover. In the social arena, they have caused even more damage by using it to brainwash impressionable children and young college students, and to teach people to hate their nation, their cultural traditions, and worst of all, themselves

  • JustaThoughtB4IGo

    A well stated argument, until you reached your Kim Davis sermon. Kim Davis, “the misguided clerk,” won her elected position in 2014 as a Democrat. Saying that conservatives should make a point to denounce her is not an appropriate argument.
    That being said, Black Lives Matter, at its core, has a compelling statement to be made. Statistics bare out that there is a disproportionate number of young, black men in jails and prisons. But, this is not simply a result of white officers out on a vengeful rampage. There are certainly issues with the criminal justice system. However, to assume that the only thing that needs to change in the system is the way that police treat people ignores a more systemic problem in our society as a whole. Unfortunately, I do not see anyone stepping up to broaden this debate.

  • Ed VanVoorhees 1975

    What’s so bad about this article? Thank you Bryan. Are dissenting views not allowable at the 21st Century Wesleyan? My father-in-law left Austria at age 17 because the Brown Shirts, Hitler Youth, bullying and trying to pick fights with him. Intimidation was also Lenin’s tactic to take over the Communist Party in Russia–verbal violence, and where that failed physical violence.
    How does this attempt to silence and intimidate the Argus Staff differ from Facism? As Mrs. Clinton intoned: “We are Americans and we have a right to disagree.”

    • Pants_Up__Dont_Loot

      But if you are white and disagree with a black person, you’re a racist or a bigot.

  • Voice_of_Reason

    It’s hard to understand why BLM seems to focus rage on the police. The total number of people killed by the police each year (which includes blacks, whites, hispanics, etc.) is LESS than 1/6 of the number of blacks killed by other blacks each year.

    And MOST police shootings are justified, although there are a few horrible unjustified shootings such as Slager shooting a running black man in the back. Nearly NONE of the black-on-black shootings are justifiable self defense.

    So BLM really ought to focus most of its rage on black thugs.

    • Pants_Up__Dont_Loot

      But whitey is who’s making the blacks kill each other by holding them down.

      • Voice_of_Reason

        or, it’s the “evil gun” that takes control of their minds and makes them kill each other.

        the funny thing is that guns are widely available in Vermont and rural Minnesota, where the murder rate is literally about 1/100th of the murder rate in Baltimore, which has strict gun control.

      • Pants_Up__Dont_Loot

        Tell me about it. I live here. The criminals have more rights than the tax paying law abiding citizens.

      • Voice_of_Reason

        you live in Bawlamer? I have one word for you: MOVE!

    • Anonymous

      I don’t understand why these folks thought throwing out newspapers would make the article (available online) disappear.

      • Voice_of_Reason

        They don’t think, they FEEL. They are histrionic and impulsive.

    • The Big City of Dreams

      So BLM really ought to focus most of its rage on black thugs.

      —————–

      What makes you think that isn’t a focus among BLM and the community in general?

      • Voice_of_Reason

        I haven’t heard them chanting threatening cadences against thugs, but i’ve them chant about frying pigs like bacon.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        “I haven’t heard them chanting threatening cadences against thugs”

        That didn’t answer the question so I’ll ask it again: What makes you think that isn’t a focus among BLM and the community in general?

      • Voice_of_Reason

        it did answer the question. actions speak louder than words. instead of asking questions, make your case. YOU explain how they are stopping thug violence.

        the only “answer” liberals and blacks ever come up with is “more gun control”. they can’t explain wny the murder rate in rural minnesota and Vermont is less that 1 per 100,000 even though guns are widely available, while the murder rate in every majority black big city is off the charts, even if they have strict gun control. Baltimore, for example, has a third-world murder rate of about 35 per 100,000 even though Martin O’Malley has successfully disarmed law abiding citizens.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        “it did answer the question.”

        This is an answer: “I haven’t heard them chanting threatening cadences against thugs”

        “actions speak louder than words.”

        They do and you seem to think the actions of the community are non existent

        “YOU explain how they are stopping thug violence.”

        Well you’re never going to stop “thug violence.” You can continue to do what the community has done in the form of protests, out reach centers, organizations, marches, training centers, self policing and events to curb violence.

      • Voice_of_Reason

        hurray. keep doing what you’re doing. oh wait, it isn’t working.

        here’s a clue: children with two caring parents tend to be far better off in every measurable way.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        “hurray. keep doing what you’re doing. oh wait, it isn’t working.”

        The fact you haven’t been able to answer the question tells me everything I need to know.

        “here’s a clue: children with two caring parents tend to be far better off in every measurable way.”

        What is this in response to or is it just a statement you’re making? Two parent homes are vital no one will discount that.

      • Voice_of_Reason

        how many times do i need to answer the question? BLM started theur media blitz and protests complaining about something that DID NOT HAPPEN (the lie that Mike Brown was shot with his hands up was disproven by Holder’s DOJ).

        I have yet to see BLM say or do anything substantial on the issue of black crime, but they sure spend a lot of time and energy protesting the police.

        is that clear enough for you?

      • The Big City of Dreams

        “BLM started theur media blitz and protests complaining about something that DID NOT HAPPEN (the lie that Mike Brown was shot with his hands up was disproven by Holder’s DOJ).”

        BM originally started as a hashtag after the death of Trayvon Martin. It’s not a movement tied to only one person or event.

        “I have yet to see BLM say or do anything substantial on the issue of black crime,”

        They have attended and even created events talking about the crime within the community. Hell I maybe mistaken but months after the death of Brown there was an stop the violence event which featured the fathers of Mike Brown and Trayvon Martin. BLM isn’t the only group tackling the violence within the community. Why overlook other groups that exist?

        “is that clear enough for you?”

        Can you name other groups besides BLM?

  • laura

    http://bostonreview.net/forum/glenn-c-loury-ferguson-wont-change-anything-what-will

    …..The black freedom struggle is in deep trouble today. It is in danger of losing its way—of becoming irrelevant. With Jim Crow a distant memory and black political influence waning as other minority groups—particularly Latinos—have grown, the conditions that gave rise to the mid-twentieth-century movement have dramatically changed. The tropes and dramaturgy of an earlier era—deployed today by the likes of Reverend Al Sharpton—come off as dubious and unconvincing anachronisms. They persuade nobody who isn’t already persuaded.

    The Civil Rights Movement is to some degree a victim of its own successes in dismantling racist laws and attitudes in American society. Despite the large challenges that remain, that success is reflected in the improved legal, moral, and cultural environment that black Americans now enjoy. The election and reelection of Barack Obama, our first black president, attests to this. Overt expression of anti-black racial antipathy would prove fatal to the career of a politician, prominent business executive, celebrity athlete or entertainer. Ours is not a “colorblind” or “post-racial” society, and it may never be. But the easy enemy of overt, de jure discrimination has largely been conquered. What remains is what some call structural racism—the tacit, de facto impediments that systematically disadvantage African Americans and others. The effects of de facto racism are not minor, but they also are not easily reached by anti-discrimination laws and not usefully illuminated by cases such as Brown’s.

    What we face today are conditions and associated policy problems that are hard to remedy and are often morally ambiguous—for instance, conflicts between mainly white police departments and mainly black communities where violent crime often takes place. Frustrated responses to these conditions frequently trade on idealized portraits of deprivation. But arguments on behalf of change must be credible; they must be based in reality; they cannot rest on hyperbole or dubious historical analogy or the like-minded understandings of the politically correct. Arguments for less punitive law enforcement, more community-friendly policing, more public investment in the urban spaces where large numbers of black and brown people live, less suspicion of young black men—these arguments, to be effective and persuasive, have to acknowledge the realities of our time.

    One of these realities is the high rate of violence in low-income minority neighborhoods. Violent encounters between police and black men are common in contemporary urban America—national numbers are, amazingly, unknown, but according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, in the eight-year period between 2005 and 2012, twenty-seven blacks and six whites were shot dead by police in St. Louis alone—in part because of racist policing, in part because of concentrated poverty, and in part because young black men participate in so much violent crime. In twenty-five of those thirty-three St. Louis cases, police claimed to have resorted to deadly force only after being attacked by the suspects.

    The controversy over the shooting in Ferguson underscores the fact that the main source of the racial tensions in modern America is the tortured relationship between residents of urban black communities and the police there. This is, unavoidably, difficult moral terrain. Excessive police violence, born of contempt for residents, is a real problem. And racial profiling of law-abiding black people often poisons police-community relations. We should never lose sight of these truths.

    But they are not the only relevant truths. It is also the case that violent criminal victimization occurs in inner cities, often at the hands of young black men. Such violence necessitates a vigorous police response. Yes, I want bankers punished when they steal from clients. Yes, I want public officials punished for violating the public trust. But I also want young black men punished when they undermine public order.

    To be sure, some of the laws being broken in urban America are wrong. As I have argued elsewhere, we have over-criminalized on the drug front, and the impact of this punitive moral crusade on people of color has been disproportionate and devastating. That racial injustice demands correction. Moreover, many of the low-income, poorly educated black and brown people caught up in the criminal justice system would not be there if they had better legal representation and economic opportunities. Their transgressions often carry negative consequences that are out of line with the severity of their misdeeds, considerably weightier than what befalls middle-class white youngsters committing the same acts. In many tragic true stories, lack of money, contacts, and legal sophistication costs the freedom and life prospects of a young person from the wrong side of the tracks. These palpable manifestations of social inequality, which too have a racist aspect, need to be remedied.

    These realities—of routine minority victimization by the criminal justice system and the need to maintain order in poor minority communities—don’t map easily onto the Ferguson protests. The larger social critique of law enforcement in American cities and its impact on people of color is not well served by Brown’s painful example. That leads to hyperbolic claims about police looking to gun down innocent black teenagers because of the color of their skin, claims that don’t advance the political task at hand when the evidence suggests they are not true. Demands that prisons be abolished because too many blacks are locked up, complaints that today’s war on drugs is the functional equivalent of yesterday’s Jim Crow, acts of violence directed at law enforcement in the name of resistance—these, too, are politically harmful if the aim is to persuade a majority of our fellow citizens of the need for reforms.

    If we want to see fundamental change in this area of public policy—where the state’s monopoly on the legitimate use of force collides with a community’s legitimate demand that order and security be maintained without contempt, alienation, and oppression—then we shall have to tread into some difficult territory. This is the territory where we reckon with the sources of disorder in too many American communities—including transgressions disproportionately enacted by black people. Where such transgression is the norm, people live in fear for their safety, and police officers know they could end up in life-threatening situations. These are not fantasies in the minds of law enforcement officers and residents of communities afflicted with violence, but fears inspired by real events. Righteous demands for racial justice such as those now echoing from protests in Ferguson can be compelling, but not if these fears and their factual bases are implicitly or explicitly denied.

    This, it seems to me, is an argument that has to be made over and over again until it prevails. There are no shortcuts. To require that Brown be memorialized as a choirboy and Wilson demonized as a racist monster—to require, more generally, that the scourge of incarceration in black communities be understood as the rampant arrest of people who have done nothing wrong, who are the victims of police, prosecutorial, and judicial racism—is to start out with two strikes against oneself. The goal of moving our troubled democracy toward racial justice won’t be achieved through caricature and denial.

    • Voice_of_Reason

      blacks are ALREADY free. why do they need a black freedom movement?
      maybe they would be better served with a movement to try to get more black kids properly socialized, civilized, and educated.

      yes, I wrote properly socialized and civilized – which means raised correctly and inculcated in a useful culture. burning down your city because you are angry about the police is an uncivilized and incompetent way to address the situation.

      • Pants_Up__Dont_Loot

        68% of the NFL are black players. Who says there isn’t opportunity for them?

      • Voice_of_Reason

        i never said that there isn’t opportunity for blacks.

      • Pants_Up__Dont_Loot

        I was making a side-statement, more than likely out of place in response to your statement. The black freedom movement also screams that they can’t get jobs because there’s no opportunity. There are a lot of jobs available. But they requires you to get up in the morning and actually go do something. Why do that when you can sit on your stoop all day long, squeeze out 4 or 5 kids, and make more money off the government? Several of my black friends have full-time jobs or two jobs and work their azzes off….and they agree with me 100% that the system is broken and a lot of these “BLM protesters” are just looking for more handouts.

      • Voice_of_Reason

        A black guy with normal intelligence, no felonies, who can speak English correctly is ALWAYS hired first at government jobs.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        “and a lot of these “BLM protesters” are just looking for more handouts.”

        They are looking for the opposite actually.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        “blacks are ALREADY free. why do they need a black freedom movement? ”

        Because there are still issues and injustices that occur that haven’t been solved.

        “burning down your city because you are angry about the police is an uncivilized and incompetent way to address the situation.”

        You say that as if that is a common occurrence among black people when that is not the case.

      • Voice_of_Reason

        huh. i haven’t seen any white folk rioting about black on white crime, which is way more prevalent that white on black crime. I haven’t seen any mobs of white people beating a black since reels of ancient news footage.

        the only rioting i’ve ever seen whities involved in was about sports teams – and there were blacks in the crowds, too.

        As for unsolved racial injustices, I agree. Why is the NBA 70% black when blacks are only 13% of the population? The NBA needs to have quotas for eskimos, fat white guys, and asians!

        And why is it that the highest scoring black admittee to Harvard EVERY YEAR scores lower on the SATs than many asians whomare not admitted??

      • The Big City of Dreams

        “huh. i haven’t seen any white folk rioting about black on white crime, which is way more prevalent that white on black crime”

        I’ve seen white people riot for a lot less. “Sporting events, surf competition, pumpkin fests.

        “I haven’t seen any mobs of white people beating a black since reels of ancient news footage.”

        You haven’t?

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_HvJ0PXuYs
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPbMsZM-eO4
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pcRpyRnSnc

        “Why is the NBA 70% black when blacks are only 13% of the population?”

        Who owns the teams and the league in the NBA?

      • Voice_of_Reason

        congratulations, you found some examples. doesn’t change the FACT that interracial crime is almost exclusively black on white. it’s well documented, includng by DoJ.

        and your question makes no sense.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        “congratulations, you found some examples.”

        You stated you haven’t seen it in a while so I felt the need to search for examples. You could have searched for them yourself.

        “and your question makes no sense.”

        It makes perfect sense. You made a point to mention a sport that is predominately black as if to say there are structures set up to keep out any other ethnicity when that is not the case. Even though the NBA is predominately African American; a majority of the owners, coaches, and front is white. I’m not demanding that AA needed to takeover the league but don’t make it seem like AA control it.

      • Voice_of_Reason

        you spectacularly miss the point.

        Is the over representation of a particular group in a certain activity an indicator of racial discrimination? Or could it simply be that some groups tend to be better at some things than others?

      • The Big City of Dreams

        “you spectacularly miss the point.”

        What is the point exactly?

        “Is the over representation of a particular group in a certain activity an indicator of racial discrimination?. Or could it simply be that some groups tend to be better at some things than others?”

        The NBA being predominately AA is different then say union jobs that discriminated against certain minorities. If you can play and have skill you will find a spot. That’s not the same as someone seeing your skin tone, name, and address and decide well we’ll just skip over this resume.

      • Voice_of_Reason

        aha. so you are stating skills are not distributed the same between different groups? because one field that does not discriminate (NBA players) is dominated by a particular, relatively small group?

      • The Big City of Dreams

        “aha. so you are stating skills are not distributed the same between different groups? ”

        No I’m stating differences that exists. There are no barriers in the NBA blocking different ethnicities from participating. You’re not going to see someone ignore a player who is white simply based on his skin color.

    • Anonymous

      The real issue is the one no one wants to talk about: It’s not about oppression of blacks by the big white boogeyman… it’s about their own culture and value system, particularly in lower income brackets, that continues to sabotage any possibility for climbing the ladder out of poverty. Part of this is due to the embracing of a victim culture, where everyone and anyone who isn’t black is out to oppress blacks. This ends up becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. There is also no recognition that the very real major-chip-on-their-shoulder attitude constantly gets in their way. What rational person really wants to deal with attitude all the time… especially when they can go run to HR at the drop of a hat. Other factors include the self-sabotage of refusing to learn proper English, adapt to standards of clothing that enhance one’s marketability, and showing up for work ON TIME. Then there is also the culture of forced conformity, biased toward the ignorant, that is directed at other blacks who tire of the nonsense and want to better themselves… they become ostracized by the group and are often targeted for unpleasantness.
      These are the main reasons for the ‘oppression’ that is such a highlight of the BLM rabble-rousers… it gets attention from the media, but becomes tiring after a short while… just like any other screaming child.

      Eventually the media (or consumers) will tire of the never-ending outrage of BLM and self-proclaimed ‘leaders’ like Al Sharpton and they’ll move on. But right now there is big money to be made from outrage. Al Sharpton has quite the collection of high-end automobiles… funded, no doubt, by his regular appearances on television and lectures, which pay really, really well.

  • Anonymous

    I heard an editor from the paper in an interview re: this op ed piece, on NPR…actually I tuned in half way through, and heard the bizarre apology the paper gave after getting grief for running the piece. I came here to read it, because I figured it had to be over the top harsh, and now I am at a loss for words. WHY THE HECK APOLOGIZE? This guy is anything but hostile or off base. This PC perma victims…always screaming about being OFFENDED by somebody’s opinion is ridiculous and pathetic. GROW UP.

    • Pants_Up__Dont_Loot

      We are in the New P.C. US of A where everyone is offended by something and must receive an apology. Example: All whites are required to apologize for slavery; and by doing that admit wrong doing and will be sued. God Bless The US! VOTE TRUMP!

    • Anonymous

      The louder the scream, the less rational people listen.

  • JimmyJames

    While I agree with many of the author’s points about more productive outlets to get their messages across, his main premise is predicated on demonstrable falsehoods. He implies that life is growing ever more dangerous for police officers because of the black lives matter movement. He does not support this claim with anything but anecdotal evidence because in reality, it has never ever been safer to be a police officer in the United States. Meanwhile, just interacting with a police officer can be very dangerous for anyone, and particularly black people, and the evidence that police have become more militarized, confrontational, and trigger happy is overwhelming.
    Yes BLM can and should find a way to channel their messages more appropriately. But to say they need to do so because of the safety of Police Officers is so undermining of the very legitimate grievances BLM (tries to) represent it is frustrating to think about. It indicates that police rhetoric thats anti BLM is justified and defensible, whereas the other way around is disgusting and inexcusible. Meanwhile only one side is actually facing increasing dangers, and its not the Police.

    • Voice_of_Reason

      no doubt the police have committed some egregious crimes recently – Slager comes immediately to mind. And no doubt (in my mind) that the war on drugs is counterproductive and results in lots of arrests of black people that doesn’t make society any safer.

      But BLM is still full of crap. Depending on the year you look at, 6 times as many blacks are murdered by other blacks than the entire number of police shootings of all races. And the majority of police shootings are justified. If Black Lives REALLY Mattered, the focus would be on the biggest problem.

      The difference is that the extraordinary black murder rates have no central villain figure. The police are easy to find and identify, so they make easy scapegoats for stupid, emotional, angry people. The police pull back, crime and murder in black areas goes even higher, and the people suffer.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        “If Black Lives REALLY Mattered, the focus would be on the biggest problem.”

        What makes you think ppl are not focusing on that?

      • Voice_of_Reason

        actions speak louder than words.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        “actions speak louder than words.”

        It does and I’ll ask again: What makes you think ppl are not focusing on that? What evidence do you have that ppl aren’t tackling B on B crime.

      • Voice_of_Reason

        wow. hard to believe you even asked that question.

        murder rates in black areas are going back up again, as police pull back from places where they feel threatened.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        “wow. hard to believe you even asked that question.”

        I ask the question because you haven’t answered it and still haven’t. I’ll ask it again: What makes you think ppl are not focusing on that? What evidence do you have that ppl aren’t tackling B on B crime. There are a host of orgs., marches, and groups geared toward combating the problem. Why do ppl assume the community is sitting on their hands not doing anything at all.

        “murder rates in black areas are going back up again,”

        It’s up in certain areas. It’s not the crime wave ppl assume it is.

        “as police pull back from places where they feel threatened.”

        A number of them are pulling back because they don’t want to be held accountable.

    • Pants_Up__Dont_Loot

      The same argument could be made about the Confederate flag. Just because one racist idiot took it upon himself to wear the shirt when he killed a bunch of innocent people, doesn’t mean all people that have a confederate flag or drive a car with it on the roof are racists. How many rednecks have shot and killed police officers?

      • Voice_of_Reason

        in this case, i’m not buying your analogy. despite the massive “rebranding” effort spent on changing the history of the confederate flag, it remains the flag of traitors who advocated slavery. you can say the civil war wasn’t about slavery, but Jefferson Davis said that is WAS about slavery.
        We’d be better off today if the economy of the south had not been based on a product that required slave labor to produce at competitive prices. Crime and illiteracy would sure be lower.

      • Pants_Up__Dont_Loot

        Weren’t Democrats major advocates for slavery? Why aren’t they being hung out to dry?

      • Voice_of_Reason

        Why try to rebrand the confederate flag? The confederacy died 150 years ago.

        Besides, everyone with a brain knows that rich white dems don’t really give a crap about blacks. They just throw them some scraps every once in a while. They are liberals who don’t actually want to be around poor blacks.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        “Besides, everyone with a brain knows that rich white dems don’t really give a crap about blacks”

        Do you give a crap about “blacks”

      • Voice_of_Reason

        I care about the black people I know. but i don’t havy any sympathy for BLM.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        “I care about the black people I know”

        And what are you doing to help the black community?

    • Buck

      You state that without any evidence. BLM started with Michael Brown, whose shooting was justified since, as many witnesses testified in front of a grand jury, was after he smacked Ofc. Wilson in the car, and then charged at Ofc. Wilson. So, yes, it’s dangerous to hit a police officer. It’s really dangerous to charge at a police officer. Twice.
      And for police officers 2013 was safer than 2014, and 2014 was safer than 2015.

      • Pants_Up__Dont_Loot

        It seems to be that running from the police tends to lead to a lot of these shootings….hmmmm…. Don’t Run, Don’t Die. I think I have my new moniker!

      • Anonymous

        Don’t be silly. Can’t you see that the only thing this violent out of control mob is demanding is that police not defend themselves against felons that violently resist arrest when they don’t feel like being arrested for their felonies. Is that too much to ask?

    • VWH

      I don’t see facts in this rebuttal. Time to post death stats, and show the percentage actually caused by law enforcement. BLM has called for attacks on police, this is not a falsehood. Several law enforcement officers have since been killed execution style, not falsehood.

      • Abdul Keddou

        BLM hypocrisy is exposed daily by their refusal to mention black-on-black murders and only whining when black thugs/criminals like Michael Brown get justifiably shot by cops.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        BLM hypocrisy is exposed daily by their refusal to mention black-on-black murders

        ——————

        You realize BLM members have attended and are apart of black on black stop the violence events right

      • The Big City of Dreams

        Several law enforcement officers have since been killed execution style, not falsehood.

        ——————-

        And yet even with those recent shootings the number of cops kill it at a low number compared to previous years.

    • Anonymous

      I think you need to modify your statement to say that this year has been safer for police officers who don’t have to interact with participants in the black lives matter movement or other black protestors.

      In addition to assassinations of police by members of the movement who spout exactly the same rhetoric as all the other members of BLM, more than 100 officers were injured in the riots in Baltimore.

      Is “Pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon” something peaceful protestors wanting meaningful change would say, or are those the vocalizations of an out of control, violent, angry mob?

      • Abdul Keddou

        Good points amigo. Remember where the BLM thugs got that chant was from a slogan posted on social media by the cop-killer who slaughtered 2 NYPD officers sitting in their squad car last December. That cop-killer was likewise inspired by an earlier BLM chant from NYC street protests that went “What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want it? Now!”

      • The Big City of Dreams

        Are the BLM ppl the same ones who offered condolences to the officers who lost their lives. Were they the same ones who walked in the March for the officers as well?

    • 1Connman

      Do you have any idea why blacks have problems with police? It’s the same reason that blacks kill blacks so often. They do not respect themselves nor do they law enforcement. Try doing what you are told by the police when you are stopped. Don’t run or answer back. Nobody cares that your great grandfather was a slave.

    • Alex

      “He implies that life is growing ever more dangerous for police officers because of the black lives matter movement.” — No, he shares that the police officers he spoke to feel under fire and are more on edge. That is their *perception* of the situation, no doubt fueled by the provocative and violent rhetoric of much of the BLM movement.

      “just interacting with a police officer can be very dangerous for anyone, and particularly black people,” – Actually the vast majority of people, of all colors, interact just fine with police officers without any violence occurring. People who choose to fight with police officers, threaten them, pull real or fake guns on them, etc, have a much higher chance of have an unpleasant, if not deadly, experience with the police.

      “and the evidence that police have become more militarized, confrontational, and trigger happy is overwhelming” — Militarized? Maybe. But “overwhelming evidence” that they are more confrontational and trigger-happy? No.

  • Abdul Keddou

    @JimmyJames > You are a shameful BLM nuthugger who is either a guilt-ridden white liberal with no black friends or a racist black supremacist. BLM is an indefensible bunch of cop-hating anarchistic thugs who seek to disarm cops nationwide. Their patron saint is the Divider-in-Chief Barack Obama who has poisoned the racial climate in this country with major help from his racebaiting homies Eric Holder and Al Sharpton. Obama is a half-black racist who despises his white half so thoroughly that he goes out of his way to prove how “black” he is. He tries to make martyrs out of violent thugs like Michael Brown, who brought his own death upon himself.

  • Anonymous

    Saint Michael Brown seems to have been raised on too many calories,but no morality ;
    Until the BLM movement understands this, they remain the Black Lies Matter movement

  • Anonymous

    RINO Bryan is NO conservative, modern or otherwise, he’s just a liberal doing the two step and the BS is all over his shoes. If he were a conservative, he’d have principles and it’s apparent from his column that he sways like reeds in the wind going to and fro in an effort to be ‘moderate’ in his views on BLM, gay marriage, etc. Not exactly a piece of the rock but a middle of the road moderate and we all know if you stand in the middle of the road too long you get run over. Go ahead Bryan and keep up your efforts to be on both sides of issues so not to offend others, it’s sure to get you attention but distrust because no one can tell where you stand on black and white issues; at least they used to be black and white issues until liberalism polluted everything into shades of grey.

  • Anonymous

    The only proper response to this article to is to write an opinion piece in response. If you have a valid argument, put it in writing and it will be read and respected. If you don’t have the courage to put your words down on paper with your name attached — you are a coward. Fighting thought with intimidation and violence will bring us backwards as a society.

  • Anonymous

    So them printing this rather vanilla piece is what all the fuss is about? What a bunch of politically correct pantywaists these liberals are. If anything the young man didn’t go far enough. My opinion of this movement it that its so-called peaceful protests are being used to justify riots. Cops are good people and they are pretty good are ferreting out the bad ones.

    • The Big City of Dreams

      “they are pretty good are ferreting out the bad ones.”

      How often are the bad ones ferreted out?

  • JayWilson

    The author picks and chooses which equivalencies to make. He says that if the police as a whole are to be judged by it’s violent extremists then the Black Lives Matter movement should be judged by the same criteria. In the next moment, he states that the mainstream Black Lives Matter protesters need to publicly disown its (supposed) violent radicals; but never states the same of the police. He also fails to look at the killings of cops with any historical perspective, nor does he compare the number of cops killed in the line of duty with the number of unarmed civilians killed by police officers. Finally, he failed to do the necessary research about the rampant racism present in many police precincts, to wit: http://thegrio.com/2015/05/12/fbi-white-supremacists-law-enforcement/

  • Anonymous

    The Commie Courant says there was some bad statistics in here but I just re-read the thing and I don’t see any statics mentioned. Its the Commie Courant that is inaccurate. Will they correct themselves? As Discount Bob would say, I doubt it!

  • Rick

    If the George Soros funded BLM is really interested in saving black lives, as opposed to celebrating the destruction of cops why are they no permanently camped out in front of Chicago city hall!

  • Anonymous

    Excellent article!

  • Jim Scotts

    Bryan Stascavage for Class President!!!!!

  • mz

    Great article. Kudos to Bryan for having the courage to write it, and The Wesleyan Argus for having the courage to publish it.

  • MMASeaDog

    Bryan. For starts Thank You for your service. I just saw you this morning on Fox News and congratulate your courage to write this piece. You’ve brought up some thoughts and questions that are provocative and are asking a great question about the goals and intention of the Black Lives Matters Organization. Black lives, Blue lives and frankly all lives matter. I have to agree with you on where is the Black Lives Matters organization heading. Though some claim don’t judge the larger group by the actions of a few extremists, I have yet to see leadership of the Black Lives Matters group speak out against calls to kill police and to fry them like bacon.

    I am also amazed about how quickly the liberal student body doesn’t have the same level of compassion and tolerance for a differing view from their own.

    Keep up the good work and continue to stand by your beliefs and words. After all they are yours and it is your choice as an American to have them. Don’t let the hypocritical left in your student body silence your opinion. Imagine what would happen if you lashed out at them for their opinion or believes the way they have gone after you.

    • The Big City of Dreams

      I have yet to see leadership of the Black Lives Matters group speak out against calls to kill police and to fry them like bacon.”

      I think Deray and Marc Lamont Hill spoke out against that.

  • Anonymous

    Militant thugs don’t like their motives and actions being questioned. BLM is nothing more than a racist, violent group that targets whites and cops. How ironic that the Free Speech Movement, which was started by leftwing radicals on university campuses in the 1960s, against the ‘oppressive establishment’, has now become the oppressive establishment.

    • JoJoViolet

      Actually if you read the article you would know that nobody is oppressing anyone. The university and the editors both stated that they would not seek to restrain the author’s right to free speech. Free speech does not mean that people don’t have a right to be pissed off about what this guy wrote. As a matter of fact it means just the opposite, those angered by this op-ed have every right to disagree and exercise their free speech right and that’s what they did. Nobody hurt this guy. Nobody burned his house down. Of course if BlackLivesMatter folks were the ‘violent thugs’ like you claim they would have killed this guy. But they are not ‘violent thugs’ and their response to this op-ed piece proves it.

  • Alan Falcone

    Spot on Bryan Stascavage. Personally I think the movement went sour a long time ago, like when it was created. ALL LIVES MATTER!! No race card or ethnic card, just the AMERICAN CARD!!! Straighten up and fly right!!!

    • JoJoViolet

      Yes, let’s pretend the problem of cops targeting black men/women doesn’t exist. And I just want to slap some sense into people using ‘all lives matter’. Should we all start protesting against ‘stand up 2 cancer’ events? Because I am offended that they think heart disease, diabetes and all the other serious diseases don’t matter. Of course that would be stupid.
      BlackLivesMatter is an organization born out of a specific issue, cops killing unarmed blacks. Never once have they said no other lives matter, just like Stand Up 2 Cancer has never said no other diseases are important.
      Let’s face it. The only reason people get angry at the name and movement that identifies a specific problem is because of the word ‘Black’. If they called it ‘white lives are not the only lives that matter’, I doubt folks would object.

      • Alex

        “Never once have they said no other lives matter” — They do just then when they side with black criminals who threatened police officers, pulled real or fake guns on them, etc.. They do when they argue that police do not have a right to use deadly force to stop a reasonably perceived threat of imminent death or serious bodily harm. They do that when they argue that “unarmed” means “undangerous”.

      • JoJoViolet

        But you see every black man/woman that is killed by the cops as a criminal. And you simple believe the police when they make their case to justify a shooting. Yet, almost every time a video surfaces it shows that the cops lied so their ‘word’ means very little to those who pay attention to facts. Cops said Walter Scott was armed and shot during a physical altercation – video surfaces and it shows that Scott was running away and that the cop shot him in the back and then in plain view picked up the taser and planted next to Scott’s body. Not to mention the paramedics and other cops who saw him plant the weapon and said nothing. COPS LIED.
        Cops said Kajieme Powell came running at them holding a knife, arm raised over his head in an attack position and they didnt shoot til he was 2-3 ft away. Video surfaces and Powell never raised his arm, did not run at them and they shot him when he was about 8 ft away. Yes, he was armed and because he was not much of a fuss was made but still the COPS LIED. Sandra Bland video shows COPS LIED. So what kind of fool would just believe what the cops say?

      • Alex

        Actually, Slager put the taser back in duty belt a minute after that… And Sandra Bland committed suicide–another example of BLM blaming the cops for something–and no evidence that the cops have lied about anything has come out.

        And Kajieme Powell? Did the police lie or were they mistaken because things happened so fast or did something get lost in translation between the police officers statements and what was told to higher-ups who talked to the press? That video that you reference shows that he advanced on the police with a knife! Once he was within 15-20 feet of them, they had the right to fire. That video proves the shooting was justified. And yes, he was criminal because he deliberately threatened police with a weapon.

        You left out BLM touting the Mike Brown case (where evidence clearly showed Wilson was justified). You left out the Tamir Rice case (where video showed him pulling the gun from his waist band). You left out the guy in Walmart who raised a BB gun towards the cops when confronted. You left out Eric Garner, who resisted arrest and later died of a heart attack (yet BLM still claims he was “choked to death” despite zero injury to his neck). You left out Vonderrit Myers, who SHOT at police officers, yet BLM still protested his death and spread claims that he didn’t have gun (he did; multiple witnesses + physical evidence prove that). You left out Anthony Robinson, who physically assaulted a police officer.

        Do I think every black person shot by police is a criminal? No. But most of them were, and they caused their own deaths by assaulting, threatening, or shooting at officers, or by resisting arrest despite health issues.

      • JoJoViolet

        Funny you should argue the Scott case, the only one where the cop has been charged with murder. Please check the initial statements by the police as to what they said including the police chief who said the cops were like his children. As for putting the taser back in his belt, true but that didn’t stop him from claiming that Scott stole it from him and had it on his person when Slager shot. You are right about the paramedics not on the scene yet, I apologize, my mistake. As for not knowing what the other cop said, he hasn’t said a word that we are aware of because of the very point I made regarding cops in control of what info is released.
        Tamir Rice, you have got to be kidding! The cop got out of the vehicle before it even came to a stop and started shooting. I have watched the video and saw nothing about the toy gun being pulled out of his waistband, not to mention he was shot within 2 seconds of the cop car coming into view. Tamir wouldn’t had time to sneeze much less pose a threat.
        John Crawford did not raise a still packaged bb gun at the cops. Period.
        Eric Gardner screamed he couldn’t breathe repeatedly but the cops didn’t care. He was not choked, his chest was compressed by the cops on top of him.
        Vonderitt Myers, the cops say he was armed and actually they didn’t say he shot at them, not initially anyway. And some witnesses have made statements to the contraty. Once again you are expecting people to just believe the cops and go on their merry way.
        Michael Brown is not the best example of police brutality. He did commit several crimes but I live 5 minutes from Ferguson and there are some things that you may not be aware of. The story of Darren Wilson having a broken eye socket was a lie. Medical reports proved that. The grand jury was a joke. The county prosecuter’s father was a cop killed by a black man when the prosecutor was a young boy but he insisted that would not influence his prosecution. He refused to recuse himself even when the governor asked. The prosecution allowed a woman to testify as a witness despite the fact that the prosecution knew she wasn’t even in the state. She apparently drives around the country pretending to be a witness for her 15 minutes of fame. The prosecutor knew this, he publicly stated that he knew this but said ‘I felt the jury needed to hear everyone’. Yet many of the citizens that claimed to be witnesses weren’t allowed to testify. In addition, they gave Wilson free reign to make his case. He spent an hour on the stand, he was not ‘prosecuted’ at all. It was more like the prosecutor was the defense attorney. Lastly, the prosecutor handed the jury a document that stated that it was perfectly legal to shoot a suspect that is fleeing but that law had been declared unconstitutional decades ago. Later he oft handedly mentioned that that document was outdated but did not elaborate. Several jurors have said they were not told that shooting an unarmed suspect was illegal. Michael Brown was not a saint and again NOT a perfect example of police brutality but if you read the DOJ report regarding the Ferguson police you might understand why it triggered such an angry response.

        Still asking, which case do you think was NOT a justified shooting that BlackLivesMatter should focus on?

      • Alex

        “Funny you should argue the Scott case,” — Don’t you mean that I didn’t argue it, other than pointing out your mistakes. We don’t have enough of the evidence yet to make an informed decision. However, Schlager did have blood on his leg (like from a Taser dart) after the shooting and the video appears to show the Taser wires attached to him as Scott starts to run away. So the case is murky, and I’m waiting for the physical evidence and witness statements before I make a decision.

        “Tamir Rice,” — Sorry, it is *clearly* on the video that he starts to pull the toy gun from his waist. How long should the cops have waited to determine it was a toy? What if it had been real (as the cops had been told)?

        “John Crawford did not raise a still packaged bb gun at the cops.” – -Again, I watched the video. It was not still packaged, and yes, he did initially raise it, perhaps because the cops startled him. However, he also dove for it a *second* time!! The cops continued to fire when he did that.

        “Eric Gardner” — If you say you can’t breathe, you can breathe. And if you don’t think he was “choked to death”, then you admit that the BLM movement is lying about that case. If Garner had simply not resisted arrest, he would have been fine.

        “Vonderitt Myers,” — The BLM movement continued to protest his death long after the evidence came out that Myers was both armed and had shot at the police officer.

        “Michael Brown” – The broken eye socket was an Internet rumor, not an official police statement (and Wilson never claimed he had that). The grand jury system was *finally* used as it should be in this country–it was given all the evidence, instead of just the evidence cherry-picked by a prosecutor.

        “The prosecution allowed a woman to testify as a witness despite the fact that the prosecution knew she wasn’t even in the state.” — Knew? or Suspected? And witness falsehoods were brought out during questioning by the prosecutors. For example, every anti-Wilson witness was found to be not credible and to have given statements that were inconsistent with the physical evidence. Only a single pro-Wilson witness, the one you just mentioned, was found to not be credible.

        “many of the citizens that claimed to be witnesses weren’t allowed to testify.” — Name one. Sorry, those are just more unsubstantiated rumors. People from the nearby cars testified, people who were in apartments or who were working on-site testified. Who was left?

        “they gave Wilson free reign to make his case.” — Yes, and that is perfectly legal. Most potential defendants simply don’t testify because their statements can be used against them in a later trial and because they cannot have a lawyer assisting them.

        “the prosecutor handed the jury a document that stated that it was perfectly legal to shoot a suspect that is fleeing but that law had been declared unconstitutional decades ago.” — Not quite accurate. The jury was early on given an accurate copy of the Missouri statute. A different statute in a different state had recently been declared unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court. Therefore, it was likely that Missouri’s law, which was similar, would also be found unconstitutional if challenged.

        “Later he oft handedly mentioned that that document was outdated but did not elaborate.” — First of all, “he” did not do anything. Two female attorneys from his office handled this case. Second, I read the grand jury transcripts. The revised version of the law was handed-out and the jurors were *clearly* told to disregard the older version and rely only on the current version–which they were given before they started to deliberate.

        “Several jurors have said they were not told that shooting an unarmed suspect was illegal.” — Because shooting an unarmed suspect is *not* necessarily illegal. It is indeed legal under a number of circumstances.

        Which cases do I think were unjustified? The trooper in Alabama (I think) who shot the black motorist who turned back into his truck to get his ID. That guy survived, and the trooper was charged with assault. Also, the guy who got shot in the stairwell in New York; he and his girlfriend went into a darkened stairwell in an apartment building and startled two police officers, one of whom shot the guy. That was clearly unjustified. Of course, that officer has also been charged. Sorry, I can’t remember the names. And I haven’t decided on the Scott/Schlager case yet.

      • JoJoViolet

        I just watched the store video on John Crawford, you are so full of shit. Any dive for the bb gun was justified, geez, cops were shooting at him. The video shows there was no time for verbal warnings, plus he dropped the gun so really he did what he was supposed to. In addition, Ritchie, the customer who called the police later recanted his claim that Crawford was pointing the gun at anyone. Crawford was on his phone when the cops shot him. But what does it matter. The cops weren’t charged. They rarely are because black lives DON’T matter to some cops.

      • Alex

        “ny dive for the bb gun was justified, geez, cops were shooting at him. ” — Um, no. If the cops are shooting at you, you do not have the right to go for a gun to shoot back. What a twisted notion of common sense and the law you have. The cops were not charged because Crawford started to raise a realistic-looking gun at them and then went for it a second (!) time. That makes them have a reasonable fear of imminent serious bodily harm or death, and they–just like every citizen of this country–are then justified in using deadly force.

        Faulty thinking like yours and your absolute inability to admit things that are ON TAPE are the reason the BLM movement lacks credibility.

      • JoJoViolet

        He didn’t raise the gun, he dropped it hence the reason he had to ‘dive’ for it. (And he was on his phone) Maybe we do think differently. If i am in a store and guys start shooting at me for no apparent reason all while knowing i had done nothing wrong, i wouldn’t give a rats ass what uniform they were wearing, i would defend myself. They were shooting withour any regard for anything or anyone and i don’t believe they were going to stop until Crawford was dead. You notice that none of the shoppers in the store seemed concerned. Only the guy who called the cops and he admittedly lied about Crawford pointing the gun at people. So the cops think this crazed black man is threatening peoples lives with a gun, they would not have stopped shooting until he was dead.

      • Alex

        He started to raise the gun. That’s on the tape. Then after ducking behind the end of the aisle, he lunged for it again. If he hadn’t done that, he might still be alive. And what do you mean they were “shooting withour any regard for anything or anyone”? There was nothing behind Crawford but shelves; they weren’t shooting out into the store.

        I agree that the guy who called the cops was wrong (and you’re the one putting the word “crazed” out there; that was never a part of the original phone call). But you are, in part, blaming the cops for not knowing the guy who called 911 was full of crap. Sorry, that’s wrong. You have to look at what the cops knew and reasonably believed at the time they shot at Crawford. And that was that a man started to raise a realistic looking gun toward them. Oh and BB guns can cause serious injury…

      • JoJoViolet

        Oh, and your story on Vonderitt Myers is full of holes as well.

      • Alan Falcone

        Your cure for cancer kills the patient. Nice…

      • JoJoViolet

        That’s it? That’s your clever retort? Pathetic.

      • Alan Falcone

        Why go to war when I can win with one clean swipe? Just because you want to stretch it out. After the point it is all noise.

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